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RE: 6000 mile service / Scottoiler on ST (long)



Hi Robert,

Thanks for the reply, and yes, you're right about the list - hence the
copy.....

Sorry people - it's quite long, with no editing, but it was the only way to
complete the picture.....

[Graeme's Section]

 > Just a little point or two on the Scottoiler.....
 >
 > a)  I assume it was fitted by your dealer?  If so, did they mention any
 > issues with it and your warranty?  The reason I ask is my dealer
 > categorically stated that if they fit it, the warranty will be null and
 > void, which is backed up by literature on the Triumph site.....
 >
 > and b) How does it perform on there?  Things like how much oil
 > does it mess
 > on your wheels etc (if any)?  How difficult was it to fit (if they told
 > you)?
 >
 > and last but not least c) Would you recommend one?


[Robert's section with Graeme's comments]

 > Dear Graeme,
 >
 > My Scottoiler was fitted by my dealer as I don't have the experience, or
 > skills (or desire!) to do the work myself. My dealer didn't mention any
 > warranty issues at the time and I think Triumph would have to be pretty
 > pedantic to refuse a warranty claim because of a Scottoiler fitting. Since
 > my dealer fitted it and any warranty claim I might have would be
 > handled by them, I can't see any problems. As far as fitting it yourself
is
 > concerned I think Triumph are the kind of company who are more interested
in customer
 > service than trying to get out of a warranty claim, though this
 > is of course just conjecture.

This is the snippet from www.triumph.co.uk web site from the FAQ
section......  Hence the concern.....

Scottoiler
It is physically possible to fit a Scottoiler to your Triumph Motorcycle
although we do not recommend or approve its use. Fitting a Scottoiler will
invalidate your 2-year Manufacturer's warranty if a problem is the result of
its fitment.


 > I remember a discussion on the list, when I first joined around Feb/March,
 > about scottoilers which implied that there is a complication
 > fitting them to ST's, I think an extra part is needed or something,
perhaps search the
 > digest.

Quite correct - the part is a T-Piece to make it work with the Fuel
Injection as opposed to carburettor (which the Scottoiler was originally
designed for)

 > On balance, I think it is probably safer, given the warranty
 > issue, to have it fitted by your dealer, even if you are capable of doing
it yourself. As
 > far as I understand, fitting is not totally simple, it works with engine
 > compression and one of the engine pipes (don't ask me which) has to be cut
 > and a T-piece inserted.

I would get it fitted if I could, but they refused on the grounds that
Triumph would repudiate the warranty should any issed come up regarding
fueling or anything to do with the engine management, as effectuvely, you
are intefering with the standard configuration of the bike.


 > Would I recommend one? Well, I really like the way mine is
 > fitted, it tucks in just behind the fairing near the gear change lever
(see picture
 > attached), so you wouldn't know it was there, yet it is very easy to reach
 > to refill and adjust the flow setting. When I first started, I
 > had the flow too low and the chain was still a little dry. I then
increased
 > the flow, was a bit heavy handed and my rear wheel got very dirty. After a
couple more
 > adjustments I got it just right, the chain never needs
 > lubricating and still looks as good as new. The rear wheel does get a
little more dirty than
 > without it (or should I say, when flow is too low) but this isn't really
 > visible or any kind of problem. It just means a little more soap is needed
 > and my hands get a little more dirty when I wash it. I would imagine the
 > same thing would happen if I manually lubricated the chain anyway.

It does look neat -  thanks for the pic.  And having pursued the manual path
for the last month, I know that it does mess on the bike, and it's a lot
more difficult to clean off than oil would be!!

 > The Scottoiler company have a legendary reputation for customer
 > service - I have heard a number of stories of no quibble free replacements
when any
 > problem occurs, even when a guy wrote to them telling them his
 > ten year old one needed replacing and thanking them for their excellent
product, they
 > sent him a new one, free.

I have spoken with them in this regard, and couldn't agree more - they are
very helpful and friendly, and I would like to do business with them - I
just can do without issues on the warranty.....



 > Yes, I would highly recommend it, especially in this wet weather, I don't
 > even have to think about the chain.

Sniff - I wish... - it's a pain to keep it clean and lubricated with the
traditional stuff - especially when you live down a lane made with hardcore
and it turns into a river every time it rains - what a mess!!

 > I hope this helps,
 > Robert.
 >
 > P.S. I wouldn't assume that other people on the list might not be
 > interested, there's always someone else thinking the same thing!

Thanks very much - it did help - and maybe someone on the list has some
comments to add that will make the picture clearer?

Thanks again,
Graeme


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